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	<title>Comments on: Four moves that could change the Angels</title>
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	<description>The latest on the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim, by the Orange County Register Sports staff</description>
	<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 08:16:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://fromthedugout.freedomblogging.com/2009/07/03/four-moves-that-could-change-the-angels/28365/#comment-16725</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 22:11:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When considering a bunt, one must always consider who is coming up next in the order.  I never want to take the bat out of my best hitters hands.

People might want to look at the fact lefties were hitting .500 against Ray.  I say who cares and what lefties did he face?  Izzy was 0 for 5 in his career against Ray.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When considering a bunt, one must always consider who is coming up next in the order.  I never want to take the bat out of my best hitters hands.</p>
<p>People might want to look at the fact lefties were hitting .500 against Ray.  I say who cares and what lefties did he face?  Izzy was 0 for 5 in his career against Ray.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 22:00:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Based on the comments from Lackey and the Angels management I don't see any way he returns to the Angels next season.  Lackey is a good pitcher but I wouldnt put him in top 5 of starters in the AL and Saunders is just as consistent.    He is no Beckett or CC or Holliday and while some team might be willing to pay him as such it won't be the Angels.

and for the record Lackey has 0 post-season wins since 2002, going 0 and 3</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Based on the comments from Lackey and the Angels management I don&#8217;t see any way he returns to the Angels next season.  Lackey is a good pitcher but I wouldnt put him in top 5 of starters in the AL and Saunders is just as consistent.    He is no Beckett or CC or Holliday and while some team might be willing to pay him as such it won&#8217;t be the Angels.</p>
<p>and for the record Lackey has 0 post-season wins since 2002, going 0 and 3</p>
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		<title>By: Earl Bloom, staff writer</title>
		<link>http://fromthedugout.freedomblogging.com/2009/07/03/four-moves-that-could-change-the-angels/28365/#comment-16721</link>
		<dc:creator>Earl Bloom, staff writer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 21:47:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Almost forgot.

I knew I should've included the A's trading Rich Harden when they were six out in July. Of course, the bottom fell out of Oakland's season after Harden and Joe Blanton were dealt.

I think the Angels are tougher, and could withstand that. And I don't want to give Lackey away, I want to get something for him beyond two 18-year-olds next June.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Almost forgot.</p>
<p>I knew I should&#8217;ve included the A&#8217;s trading Rich Harden when they were six out in July. Of course, the bottom fell out of Oakland&#8217;s season after Harden and Joe Blanton were dealt.</p>
<p>I think the Angels are tougher, and could withstand that. And I don&#8217;t want to give Lackey away, I want to get something for him beyond two 18-year-olds next June.</p>
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		<title>By: Earl Bloom, staff writer</title>
		<link>http://fromthedugout.freedomblogging.com/2009/07/03/four-moves-that-could-change-the-angels/28365/#comment-16719</link>
		<dc:creator>Earl Bloom, staff writer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 21:43:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I said they evaluated those relievers pretty well.

Obviously they have made mistakes, which as an Angels fan you delight in. That's your right.

But check their record out sometime. I think the Dodgers have done pretty well, in a division that likely will produce TWO playoff teams, despite missing Manny Ramirez for 50 games.

By my count, 50-29 going into Friday action is the BEST record in MLB.

Ouch.

The Giants would be leading the other two NL divisions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I said they evaluated those relievers pretty well.</p>
<p>Obviously they have made mistakes, which as an Angels fan you delight in. That&#8217;s your right.</p>
<p>But check their record out sometime. I think the Dodgers have done pretty well, in a division that likely will produce TWO playoff teams, despite missing Manny Ramirez for 50 games.</p>
<p>By my count, 50-29 going into Friday action is the BEST record in MLB.</p>
<p>Ouch.</p>
<p>The Giants would be leading the other two NL divisions.</p>
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		<title>By: Earl Bloom, staff writer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Earl Bloom, staff writer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 21:35:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed on the Soto remark. I was just trying to have fun in my response. Usuallly people get that over here, on the Lakers blog it's hopeless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed on the Soto remark. I was just trying to have fun in my response. Usuallly people get that over here, on the Lakers blog it&#8217;s hopeless.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Saxon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Saxon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 21:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Earl,

I would only trade Lackey if the team determines it's just not good enough to make a deep playoff run. Given the losses next off-season, I think it's highly unlikely they'll cash in the chips on 2009. 

I do agree that he's not coming back, though. As good as he is, free-agent starting pitching is rarely a good investment. Let somebody else pay him $50 million-plus and pray he stays healthy. They often don't.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Earl,</p>
<p>I would only trade Lackey if the team determines it&#8217;s just not good enough to make a deep playoff run. Given the losses next off-season, I think it&#8217;s highly unlikely they&#8217;ll cash in the chips on 2009. </p>
<p>I do agree that he&#8217;s not coming back, though. As good as he is, free-agent starting pitching is rarely a good investment. Let somebody else pay him $50 million-plus and pray he stays healthy. They often don&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: agentwengweng</title>
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		<dc:creator>agentwengweng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 20:24:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ouch. Jake does have a point, Earl.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ouch. Jake does have a point, Earl.</p>
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		<title>By: Jake Logan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jake Logan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 20:22:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Last night, lefties are hitting over .500 against Baltimore's reliever Chris Ray.  So he let Izzy swing. .500 is pretty hard to ignore. Of course it came back to bite Scioscia in the butt. Thats why managing is so hard. Had he bunted, there would be 10 people in here screaming at him that lefties were hitting over .500.
If it makes you feel any better I was screaming bunt too. But Jim is right too, Napoli would have been waked to face Aybar. 
With Aybar being young, you tend to get really good games or really bad games, rarely anything in between. Last night Aybar look horrible at the plate. Maybe that and Izzy's average with runners in scoring postition played in to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last night, lefties are hitting over .500 against Baltimore&#8217;s reliever Chris Ray.  So he let Izzy swing. .500 is pretty hard to ignore. Of course it came back to bite Scioscia in the butt. Thats why managing is so hard. Had he bunted, there would be 10 people in here screaming at him that lefties were hitting over .500.<br />
If it makes you feel any better I was screaming bunt too. But Jim is right too, Napoli would have been waked to face Aybar.<br />
With Aybar being young, you tend to get really good games or really bad games, rarely anything in between. Last night Aybar look horrible at the plate. Maybe that and Izzy&#8217;s average with runners in scoring postition played in to it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jake Logan</title>
		<link>http://fromthedugout.freedomblogging.com/2009/07/03/four-moves-that-could-change-the-angels/28365/#comment-16709</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake Logan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 20:15:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Earl, Johnson, Sabathia, and Langston were traded by teams who had given up on the season. The Angels are in first place. That is the hole in your theory. If you trade Laceky, you are waving the white flag. Not gonna happen.
Sorry about the Soto mention, I was gonna say you've been hanging out with Michael Jackson's doctor, but I thought that was tasteless. Go figure the Soto mention was the classiest of my two posts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Earl, Johnson, Sabathia, and Langston were traded by teams who had given up on the season. The Angels are in first place. That is the hole in your theory. If you trade Laceky, you are waving the white flag. Not gonna happen.<br />
Sorry about the Soto mention, I was gonna say you&#8217;ve been hanging out with Michael Jackson&#8217;s doctor, but I thought that was tasteless. Go figure the Soto mention was the classiest of my two posts.</p>
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		<title>By: Jake Logan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jake Logan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 20:08:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Earl, I can stand at 3rd, 1st, Lf, &#38; Rf for two innings, that doesn't make me a major leaguer. Quinlan is not a major leaguer. Hey maybe the Dodgers will give him a six-year contract.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Earl, I can stand at 3rd, 1st, Lf, &amp; Rf for two innings, that doesn&#8217;t make me a major leaguer. Quinlan is not a major leaguer. Hey maybe the Dodgers will give him a six-year contract.</p>
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