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The Mariano Rivera spitting video
October 20th, 2009, 8:04 am · 121 Comments · posted by Sam Miller, The Orange County Register
Yankees closer appears to spit on (or near) the ball.
I’m sure I’ll be called naive, but … seems a bit too obvious to be cheating.
Discuss - and take the poll.
Did Mariano Rivera spit on the baseball Monday against the Angels?
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Figures…Makes sense why someone who can’t throw harder than 91 is so hard to hit. They talk about how much movement his pitches have. Should have known. He was actually one of the few Yankees I didn’t have hatred for. LOL
I am not all that knowledgeable about baseball, but it seems hard to believe that it would make that much difference. I do agree that it seems he did it though.
Look at this series of images (with my comments), all of which are from the Halo Heavens thread that started all of this.
Almost definitely spit:
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d19/diablo2189/spit1.png
Scioscia fading in. What appears to be spit dispersing on the ball… or is it?
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d19/diablo2189/spit2.png
The dispersing spit is the logo on Scioscia’s jacket, as well as those white lines coming out of the bottom left of the ball. However, what happened to that white streak I highlighted in the second picture? Gone from this next picture:
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d19/diablo2189/spit3.png
Finally, a clear shot of Scioscia’s jacket. Why is the “spit” getting clearer as the camera fades Rivera out?
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d19/diablo2189/spit4.png
The picture shows the fade of the Majestic logo and that is what you think is spit you idiot.
That logo is “above” the ball also and not on it. Funny one one ever notices that. Should be looking for a wet spot on the ball.
the fact that you’re using Mike Scioscia’s name and trying to impersonate him makes you the idiot. Obviously the manager of a team in the championship series would have bigger concerns than post on OCR.
It’s clear he’s spitting on the ball… and as J-Dizzle said, the logo is above the ball and not on it.
Must be a Yankees fan.
Great job not reading my post in it’s entirety. I’m on YOUR side! I clearly said that the “spit halo” was the logo on Scioscia’s jersey!
Like I said in a different thread, it makes zero sense for him to intentionally do it in such obvious view.
That being said, I’m curious to see if there are any other angles FOX may have, and if anyone in the media has asked Rivera what was going on here.
That’s as clear as day! Kidding me, you think it’s also a coincidence that the ball is being held with the seems perfectly pointed out those same seams that Rivera throws the cutten with? What the heck are you East coast biased fans looking at? Suspend him! Cheating yankees. Also you think it’s a coincidence that he looks toward 2nd and 3rd (at the umps!) prior to lugi? As Ocho Cinco would say, “Child Please!!”
Sean
Not so fast. Only the OC Register has this video. FOX Sports doesn’t. ESPN doesn’t. I wonder why? It’s amazing what a person can do on their PC these days. The video is obviously being video taped with a separate video camera (watch the black space at the top of the video and the tone of the sound) then thrown onto a PC and the spit drawn in. The clip is only 11 seconds long and drawing the spit would take all of 5 mins. Anyone who believes this is real without searching around to collaborate what it shows are quite gullible. But, until I see this on FOX Sports and ESPN, this was done by an Angles Fan / Yankee hater. How can you be more biased than that? This has been a great series thus far and great for baseball all around. Don’t ruin it with your hating ways.
Fox Sports and ESPN = East Coast Bias. Yahoo has it, LA Times has it. Check them out.
Additionally, if you look at the chart on the right hand side, it says that he pitched 1 1/3 innings in ALDS Game 3. How could that be there? This WAS Game 3 and according to the stats he only Pitched 1 inning last night! This was a splice job from a previous game that had the right angle and shading to create the illusion to add the spit. On top of that, is it really Angel Stadium? I don’t remember being able to see a stair case / fence behind the pitcher at this camera angle. And, Angel Stadium is painted a different shade of green, much darker. Go look for yourself.
Wow, talk about a wacko conspiracy theory.
This was game 3 of the ALCS, not ALDS.
My mistake on the ALDS / ALCS mix up.
Ross, this was ALCS game 3 not ALDS game 3.
Uh, the graphic says “Rivera this post-season” and then lists:
ALDS Game 1
ALDS Game 2
ALDS Game 2
ALCS Game 1
ALCS Game 2
Yesterday’s game was ALCS Game 3, which naturally follows ALCS Game 2. So where exactly is the problem?
Also, that is not a staircase behind him, it is girders.
The next pitch Rivera threw was a cutter. Go figure, a cutter is enhanced by adding wind resistance to the ball. Spit works pretty good as a wind resister.
Read up a few comments, I’ve already admitted my mistake on the ALDC / ALCS mix-up. I’m man enough to do so.
I concur, the light green stair case is not Angel Stadium. The shot of Sciosa is, but not Rivera. And the bouncing chart was clearly split (not spit) into the picture.
I guess MLB also used that spliced and modified footage too. I mean since you can rewatch it on MLB.tv and all, then surely MLB is in on the conspiracy.
OHHHHH PLEASE, give me a break, the spit doesnt even look like it hits the ball, AND IF THIS EXPLAINS THE MOVEMENT ON HIS CUTTER, how come he has never been caught, seen, or accused of this before? since 1995/96? come on now…
hard to say. at first i thought no way. then i saw how he carefully grips the ball in the way he is going to throw before he spits to make sure it lands away from his fingers. he will have to be watched closely next time.
As others have said: with the way he’s scans the diamond before spitting down, it’s obvious he was trying to cheat. The fact that he hasn’t gotten caught before is irrelevant. He’s cheating now and should pay for it.
Although this video looks pretty incriminating, MLB would need to see more video angles. If he did spit on the ball, should he be suspended and/or fined?
Looks a bit obvious. I doubt there will be a suspension, but the umpires will watch Rivera like a hawk from now on.
He is clearly spitting on the ball. Notice how he looks around to see if anybody is looking at him right before. The video show obvious intent to spit on the ball. I hope the next time he is on the mound the Angels and umps watch him like a hawk. CHEATER!
really?or is it just that angels can’t hit him?arent you a bit biased towards your team considering they are down 2-1 in the series?
yeah…the guys been cheating for the last 13 years on the biggest stage and nobody caught it until now. people are nuts…just accept the fact that the Yankees are winning the series and stop looking for an excuse.
Stupid Angels fans, you guys get the rap of being one of the least knowledgeable group of fans for a reason.
http://deadspin.com/5385945/spit-takes-debunking-the-mariano-rivera-loogie-accusations/gallery/
you can see the spit go past the ball. and he would have to do it on every pitch. freakin morons
Take another look around the ball at what isn’t highlighted. You’ll see other lines with that similar look of what is highlighted in 4. The other lines are an image and another one coming in from changing of camera views or whatever they were doing at the time (the notice of faint images from another view mixing with the current) as can that highlighted line of spit. As ya can see in the 4th view where you can see Angel jerseys faintly with Rivera right over them. Those pictures are hardly proof.
Yes, you can see other lines, but why does that one highlighted line disappear? It isn’t in the next few shots as Scioscia is fading in.
thanks for the credible link. moron.
Mo is the best closer in the history of the game and instead of admitting that the Angels cant hit him they come out with this garbage. Come on, get a clue Mo kills the Angels and if it weren’t for the fact that the Yankees aren’t hitting, the series would be over tonight.
No “Angel” came out with it. Considering it’s obviously from a recorded broadcat, it was likely a network person or a fan who was using Tivo or something who caught it. Let’s place the blame where it belongs.
People, Jut watched my DVR and the footage has not been doctored but you can see the spit go in front of the ball as well as in front of his hand. How some people can think that Rivera has been cheating is just crazy. It would have come up sooner than this if there was any merit to the accusation. How come ESPN hasn’t had any reports on tis yet??? I’m sure that the comissioner’s office has different angels of the shot and that is why there is no suspension or fine.
E(astern) S(ports) P(rogramming) N(etwork). East Coast Bias.
Yanks = Big Bucks
Big Bucks = Happy Commish
Doesn’t matter.. cheated or no, the Angels won game 3 anyway.
Angels4Ever: Come to think of it I did notice Mo looking around to see if anyone was looking at him. They must of only aired that FOX/TBS coverage in the California area if you saw it and noone else did. Wow what else did you see?
It’s on youtube. It appears that he looked up before spitting (presumably to see if the umpires were looking at him). The trajectory of his spit was headed towards the ball. Whether it hit the ball, I can’t tell. But I believe that was his intent.
Is there any player for the Yankees who doesn’t cheat? I guess whatever it takes to get that #27 eh Skanks?
The New York Yankees are the Evil Empire…
Just like the Lakers are the Evil Empire in basketball.
Actually Boston was the evil empire in basketball for years. The Lakers on the other hand are a very classy organization which is held on an even playing field with other teams considering salary cap restrictions and the like. The Lakers have been bold, smart and good enough to be able to make the right signings, moves and also have an ideal area for which players want to be. Never heard of Kobe shooting steroids.
No, Kobe just rapes a women in a hotel rooms. And, you really think no one on the Angels shot up steroids in the past? Every slugger in baseball did. There was no rule against it at the time, so why not. Right?
Your description of the Lakers sounds a lot like the Yankees organization. The only difference is the cap between the sports. If the Angels had the same kind of money the Yankees / Red Socks and other older teams have, you would expect, and demand, the Angels organization spend the in same way these team do. The reality is that the Angels have had an identity problem the past years. (California Angels, then Anaheim Angels, then Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim.) They keep loosing their fan base thus revenue. I know quite a few people who have disowned the Angels after the last identity change.
“There was no rule against it at the time, so why not. Right?”
The hell there wasn’t. Check your facts.
There was no testing, back then, so players thought, “why not.” Testing didn’t start until recently. I should have spelled out what I meant.
Last I checked the evidence in the case against Kobe suggested he didn’t rape that chick in Colorado. Check your facts on that one as well. The prosecutor was admonished for even pursuing the case. In fact, the girl was a complete headcase, was cheating on her b/f, was looking for a nice payday, and the panties she turned in for the rape kit, while it had droplets of her blood in it also contained the semen of another man that wasn’t named Kobe Bryant OR her boyfriend. Now, you really want to continue this? Hell the only Angel that I know of that could ever be accused of steroids and was is Troy Glaus.
The Angels “Identity problem” was never really an issue. They were the California Angels for MANY years and had struggles. With the name they didn’t get the corporate and media respect which of course means money. They became Anaheim when Disney bought them and used them more as a marketing tool more then anything (Angels in the Outfield ring a bell? Bought the Ducks as well and came out with a series of Ducks movies). The Anaheim era was short lived and the impact minimal in comparison. Autry had the Angels for MANY years. With Moreno, he brought back the Los Angeles name for media marketing reasons obviously and the fact that they were originally the Los Angeles Angels in the first place. The Of Anaheim is there for contractual obligations and they ONLY have to use that in Anaheim.
As far as money goes though, seeing as how Moreno has ran the Angels and knowing the guy that Gene Autry was and the way he ran the Angels.. I’ve NO DOUBT in my mind they’d still be as classy an organization as they always have.
I know the whole Kobe case. He was still stupid to go into that room with that girls to commit adultery and get caught with a wacko. I any case, his wife ended up with a nice new HUGE diamond ring.
Losing revenue? Really Ross? Check your sources genius.. Since Arte Moreno has taken over, they’ve become more profitable every year. Over 3 million in attendence every year, they were named by ESPN the #1 sports organization in sports to attend a game out of Baseball/Basketball/Hockety/Football. Included price of tix, overall experience, price of food/bev, ownership, and product on the field. That’s pretty impressive and if you’ve been to that stadium, you can see why. I could care less about the name, LA/Anaheim/ Calif. if Artre Moreno keeps putting a product on the field, the way he has his first 7 years, this will continue to be one of the best franchises in sports. Do some research before making naive comments Ross.
Ross is an obvious troll.
Just trying to have a discussion. Name calling is not necessary.
Something you and I agree on Ross. I love debating and all that good stuff, hate when people need to try to clown and throw names and all. Really dumbs down the debate and makes it into a ridiculous circus.
It’s ok Sean.. it’s that Roid Rage and that Yankee bias that is pussing out of his sweat pores like roids pumping out of A-Frauds.
yeah and 26 world championships speak for themselves. no other mlb team is even close. face it, the angels can’t hit rivera. rivera doesn’t own post season records by cheating.
I love when fans of a team that has been around since the Civil War talk about how many championships they have.
History speaks for itself.
It sure does. For longer than the Angels have been a MLB team, the Yankees sucked and didn’t win a championship. The Yankees have been around for over 100 years. You know why people hate the Yankees? Because of their fans. Remember, you are only as good as you are for each game. Yes, the Yankees are good this year. And so are the Angles. As the birth-right to being a baseball fan (as Yankees fans believe they are) you should know well enough that this series could very easily be Angels 2-1 right now. It’s not like the Yankees dominated any game so far and Game 2 could have very easily been the Angels win. You ought to know that these teams are evenly matched. And as for the Angles not being able to hit Rivera… hahaha.
Only reason we really lost Game 2 was because Fuentes is an epic phail (only those in the gaming community would understand why the spelling) and should have known better then to throw A-Fraud that fat pitch he roided out the park.
Steve, where are you from? Have you ever been out east? Have you ever been to Yankee stadium or Fanway Park or the like. I’m from the North East and know what Yankee fans are like. You think Red Socks or Dodger or Philly’s or any other teams’ fans are any different? Try arguing with a Red Socks fan.
As a Yankee fan, I know this series could go the other way. As a matter of fact, I’m nervous that the Angels can pull it off. It’s happened before and could happen again. As a Yankee fan, who’s stuck with them through the 70″s and 80″s, I know anything can happen in baseball and NOTHING is a given.
Of course it can change… the cleaner greener and leaner Angels have been puttin a hurt on the Yanks for the past what 13 years now?
Right, and we know it. I feel no birthright to beating you guys. And, we know every team guns for us when they play the Yankees. What makes the Yankees great, is that even under these conditions, the team can manage to pull off wins. Just look at the past few games.
Game 1 ya got us outright, Game 2 we beat ourselves, Game 3 we almost beat ourselves and fixed our mistake. I have looked at them.
And tonight, we’ll see which side the baseball gods will smile on.
Or if God is asleep and the devil himself takes the field? If you wanna get religious lol.
The Yanks have been around for over 100 years, yet they have won 1 out of every 4 world series ever played. What’s your point with them being so old? The Angels have been around for how many years, and have 1 series. What’s the Angels ERA vs Rivera? Stats speak for itself.
yeah and your point is?you obviously are biased and a yankee hater. fine. but when you accuse someone of cheating, you better come with better with BETTER evidence.
where does it say a Angel fan posted this? IF you are talking about OCR, they are not Angel fans, if you look at their sports columns, they are all about the east coast. I hate our sports columnists here.
sean halo
It is spelled seams not seems a baseball has seams..also the pitch is called a cutter not a cutten.
“Seems” to me you been “cutten” too many English classes!
It’s not called a Cutten? Wow, thanks Drewski for the spelling help. You obviously didn’t get your call this morning to substitute teach at Drewski middle school so chose to correct my spelling on a blog about a baseball game. Great work doucheski. typing a bit fast out of Anger for this incident, however, was at the game so never saw the fox broadcast. I am not a techie, you tube, expert so don’t know if this is spliced, made up etc. This is just catching legs right now so I’m sure if it’s legit we’ll see something on the major networks, radio airwaves later on in the day. If this is indeed true though, it’s yet another black eye for baseball and the Yanks. I’m an Angel die hard and don’t like many of their players but two I have always had a lot of respect for (Jeter and Rivera). Both are Hall of Famers, keep their mouths shut, don’t use purple lipstick, and kiss themselves in mirrors, and seem to be pretty classy guys. They both would also be the last guys you would think to ever make the black list of Aroid heads. Well, Marianio may never have roided but if this is true, he certainly is a cheat and should be looked at the same way as any of those names on the Roid list.
The momentum is swinging in the Angels favor Yankee honks. If they beat Cream Cheese Sabathia today the series will be over and the Halos win in 6.
give me a break…camera angle is bad…all you yankee haters really need to evaluate the video BEFORE assuming anything. If you don’t, then you are biased. If Rivera spit on the ball, it would have to be proven intentional. I say this because ALL baseball players do spit you know…even pitchers.
Not so fast. Only the OC Register has this video. FOX Sports doesn’t. ESPN doesn’t. I wonder why? It’s amazing what a person can do on their PC these days. The video is obviously being video taped with a separate video camera (watch the black space at the top of the video and the tone of the sound) then thrown onto a PC and the spit drawn in. The clip is only 11 seconds long and drawing the spit would take all of 5 mins. Anyone who believes this is real without searching around to collaborate what it shows is quite gullible. But, until I see this on FOX Sports and ESPN, this was done by an Angles Fan / Yankee hater. How can you be more biased than that?
Additionally, if you look at the chart on the right hand side, it says that he pitched 1 1/3 innings in ALDS Game 3. How could that be there? This WAS Game 3 and according to the stats he only Pitched 1 inning last night! This was a splice job from a previous game that had the right angle and shading to create the illusion to add the spit. On top of that, is it really Angel Stadium? I don’t remember being able to see a stair case / fence behind the pitcher at this camera angle. And, Angel Stadium is painted a different shade of green, much darker. Go look for yourself.
This has been a great series thus far and great for baseball all around. Don’t ruin it with hating ways.
this was game 3 of the ALCS not ALDS. The camera angle is bad and now everyone assumes because he is a yankee, he is a cheater. I don’t think so!!
My bad on the ALDS / ALCS mix up.
ALDS = division series. This is the ALCS, the championship series.
The video is obviously real. You can go rewatch it on MLB.com if you paid for the mlb.tv package. I rewatched it before I posted this.
It’s real, for sure. Whether it’s what it looks like is what’s debatable.
I agree,..100% debatable. problem here is the yankee haters come out and automatically assume cheating.
And the Yankee homers/apologists/chimps come out and come up with conspiracy theories about a doctored video.
Turnabout is fair play… gotta love it lol.
Back up there Ross. Yahoo has it. Then again, I wouldn’t expect FOX and ESPN to have it because they have an east coast bias anyway. Everyone knows that. ESPN I call the Eastern Sports Programming Network for a reason. But yeah, Yahoo Sports has something on it at least.
Desperate losers grasping at straws. Yankees vs. Phillies in the WS, Yankees win in 6, Rally Monkey Stadium closed.
Wow, really making us all look like whiney little brats here. Remember a couple years ago when that tool from the Mariners blog tried the same thing with Frankie? Can we please not stoop to that level? As has been pointed out already, the man has been pitching since ‘95. He’s thrown all of one pitch in those 14 seasons, and never once has anyone come close to catching him cheat. And now, all of a sudden, we get one video where he spits in the direction of the baseball in his hand (still no proof the spit actually hits the ball) and he’s a no good cheat? Besides, wouldn’t a crafty veteran like Mariano find a doctoring method a bit more subtle? Especially with six umps on the field and Mike “Never Misses a Thing” Scioscia in the dugout? Give me a break, guys.
I’m not sure that MLB even cares about a spitter anymore after game #2 in that torrential downpour.
Wow, I am surprised Rivera would cheat in this day and age of cameras being everywhere. It should definiteley be looked at by MLB, but being it’s Rivera and the Yankees there will be some sort of spin and excuses how he wasn’t spitting on the ball when it is clear as day that he did.
That being said, Go Angels!!! Kick those spitting Yankees butts! You can do it!
well said by a biased angel fan. your bias couldn’t be more obvious. the camera angle is bad and proves nothing. either you looked at the video or you are assuming because he is a yankee, he must be a cheater?
I’d call that a reason for assumption. Need I go through the long list of Yankees over the years? A-Roid, Pettitte, Giambi… many other names to follow that act. Sounds like Yankee bias to me with your sudden need to call out Angel bias.
It’s only cheating if you get caught :-)
Spoken like a true Yanks fan.
Please - like the umpires (all 6) wouldn’t have caught that?
Naaa, they were too busy looking at their Howard’s ads… wondering if Sciocia could hook them up with some nice t.v.’s whatever appliances. C’mon now. Either that, or they were staring at Kate Hudson, wondering what the hell A-Fraud sees in her and maybe vice versa.
This is all overblown. Everyone knows that the spit eventually hits Kramer, not the ball.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEzBeP6pRoY
Nice pull. Too Funny.
Spitting on the ball does nothing except make it wet. Dumb for anybody to think it actually does something.
Can’t imagine why Gaylord Perry made a HOF career out of doing so then…
With the speed and the spin of the ball, the spit can actually alter the flight of the ball and alter its rotation in such a way to create movement on it that it might not otherwise get. Yes, spit does affect the ball.
Mariano’s cutter sure looks like a spit ball to me.
I’m surprised its spit on that ball and not a wad of A-Fraud’s roid sweat.
You people are certifiable morons. Anyone that buys into this propaganda - I have a bridge I can sell you. Here’s a post from another thread that explains it:
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If nobody has explained the compression of field distance in a telephoto shot to you before, allow me to be the first.
What looks like spitting directly on the ball could, in fact, have been a foot or more to the right of Rivera’s hand. The lens, however, compresses the depth of field and makes it seem like the event is happening directly over the ball.
Didn’t we already explore this with the ball which dropped “directly in front” of Juan Rivera in Fenway? What seemed like a catch which was possible with the fielder diving for the ball was, in fact, not nearly
It’s fun to piss off the Yankee fans. They are just as sensitive as A-Fraud.
Mariano must be a nervous spitter.
How does this guy cross the street alone?
MLB Commissioner’s office has reviewed the incident, and determined he wasn’t spitting on the ball. So, end of story. Can’t say I am surprised.
http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/yankees/mlb_no_evidence_rivera_threw_spitter_0tOjVFwIbDTyHq27OseczJ
Money and ratings talk. Seeing as how the NY Post is one of the if not the first to put that article there out, I’m not surprised. More of that Yankee bias. No matter, the Angels won despite it all anyway.
Why do we hate Bonds so much, yet players like A-Rod, Pettit, Ramirez, Ortiz, and all the others get free passes? They cheated just like he did. Yet we all just look the other way.
In track or cycling if you cheat and get caught your record vanishes, ask Floyd Landis or Ben Johnson.
If you cheat in college you get an automatic F and possibly dismissed.
If you cheat on Wall Street you go to jail or pay huge fines. Hello, Martha Stewart.
I don’t understand our society some times.
Well that’s easy. Bonds set the all-time HR record AND denied ever knowingly taking steroids, AND potentially perjured himself in court.
A-Fraud is well on his way towards breaking the all time HR record and for years denied he was doing roids before tests that weren’t suppose to be leaked as far as the results go came out. Bond’s only said he never “knowingly” not that he never didn’t. Course, don’t ask don’t tell right? Bond’s though became the posterboy of it because he’s hated dearly by the media.
As A-Rod approaches that home run record in the future, I’m sure the backlash will build up against him again, outside of New York anyways.
Naaa… so long as he’s hitting the post season and wins a World Series, New York will have a short term memory about things and be forgiving.
Gary Matthews Jr., Troy Glaus, Brendan Donnelly, and Scott Schoenweiss have all been connected to steroid use. Any criticism of them by the majority of Angels fans? It’s unfortunate that so many fans who are quick to jump on other teams’ players for steroid use turn a blind eye when one of their own does it. What’s unfortunate is that so many players on so many teams were doing steroids and most of them are getting passes for it.
As a Yankee fan, I lost all respect for A-Rod when the news came out. He was supposed to be the one who would make the career home run record mean something again. Not only was he a cheater, but he was a liar as well.
As far as I’m concerned, Hank Aaron is still the all-time home run champ and will be until someone who never used PEDs hits 756 home runs. And I’m not the only Yankee fan that feels this way.
Guess who aren’t Angels and guess who’s still a Yankee. Matthews was accused of HGH, not roids. We unfortunately are on the hook for GM, otherwise we’d have unloaded him. The Yanks extended A-Frauds contract. By the way, we all criticized Gary when it came out. Couldn’t do much with his contract though.
Guess who were Angels in 2002? My point is that every team had PED users, and no doubt every team still does. I don’t believe for a minute that every Yankee is clean right now. I also don’t believe for a minute that every Angel is clean right now. Sad state of affairs, but it is probably a little cleaner now than it was 5-10 years ago.
And don’t think New York coddles its own. The headline A-Roid was coined in the New York press and that guy was pilloried in the press AND at the Stadium. Many Yankee fans like myself will never fully accept A-Rod because he’s been a lying cheater in the past, and you can’t trust lying cheaters, plain and simple.
And dude, I really don’t think you can speak for all Angel fans, “we all criticized Gary when it came out.” Really? Every single Angel fan?
What about all A-Rods records he has set and will likely still break. He has a lot of years left in him. What about Manny’s all time post season HR record? Yes, at least they don’t have Barry’s attitude, but you really believe that BS excuse A-Rod gave.
Perjury, whatever, go sit in any random courtroom in the US for a day, you will run out fingers and toes to count the amount of times people lie on the stand when being questioned by Noon.
“Yes, at least they don’t have Barry’s attitude, but you really believe that BS excuse A-Rod gave.”
Not in the least.
there have to be a few cool Angels fans who respect the game of baseball and enjoy it for the perfect sport it is, right?? Or all you guys new jack idiots who are in it for the beer and trash talking?
sean halo
Considering the fact that I was at the first Angels game at Chavez Ravine ( that is Dodger Stadium in case you do not know) in 1962 and met Dean Chance, Albie Pierson, Bo Belinski et. al. which I would venture is before your time on this planet, and have been an Angels fan since then….what is that 47 years? You do the math… you are definitely too strung on coffee dude…chill and I hope you don’t have too many brewskis at the game and just cheer the team on.
Addressing as far as Sean earlier with Cutten… it’s called a typo, they happen end of story.
j-dizzle
You are a hoot…great posts. Based on Yankee fan posts you can see why people don’t like them the fans and the team, and foremost why the Dodgers left Brooklyn for the sunny left coast is that there are to many proctologists in NY.
Go Angels
I try, they just can’t keep up with me. It’s too easy really. At least these guys don’t go hurling insults to mask their inability to make a solid argument.
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kudos
good banter is great, but rude mindless raves are not worth the money they are printed on…….Go Angels and I hope Vlad continues to make up for lost time an quell the cynics, and Torii et. al. kick some fanny tonight.
Yeah I think Vlad is coming around. He’s hitting for a nice percentage since he made his impact at the end of that Blow Sox series. Be nice to see Morales, Hunter and Abreu get going. I think once they are on, the Angels will be too dangerous for the Yankees. Oh and everyone don’t forget, CC is 6-7 against the Angels lifetime. Mix in 3 days rest and it doesn’t look good for him.
Both teams are volatile and can explode at any time both in the plus offensively and the negative making errors too. The questions is who peaks with the right stuff at the right time. Adenhardt’s presence will we a big plus for the team kind of a legal droid….
The Yankees have already been putting their offense out there. 4HR’s yesterday I think about said enough. It’s really been the Angels offense that has been sputtering.
What is this Adenhardt’s presence crap I keep reading? If they Angels win its his presence, and if they lose then what?
It has NOTHING to do with the outcome of the game, its all spin for the media and fans.
Tragedy can sometimes lead to adversity. Something like that can help to inspire a person or a team. It’s what happened to Nick that Angels players can realize that no matter how bad a situation gets, it could be worse. Play every game like its your last, pitch and hit like its your last. In Nick’s case early in the year, he pitched his last. That’s the meaning of his presence. A spiritual feeling meant to inspire.
david
You are obviously a soulless sore with no heart just a blog mindset …. go drown your negative thoughts in thristy two ouncer of beer while you watch the game. I would say more but will not lower myself to that level.
Go Angels win one for the Adenhardt